WHUDeano 11:37 Fri Feb 10
Declan Rice is a centre half
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I’ve heard Souness spout this shite when he’s been a pundit on our games over the past few years. Every time he’s said it, it’s made me chuckle as he is obviously a chancer who doesn’t watch any of our games. Now he’s had his nonsense published in the mail:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11737145/GRAEME-SOUNESS-Declan-Rice-end-defender.html
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gph
12:04 Sat Feb 11
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Everything Souness knows, he learnt from our own Mr Vexed...
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Vexed
12:17 Sat Feb 11
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No geep son I'm of the opposite opinion, Rice is a terrible centre back. It annoys me when idiots like yourself think we should play him there.
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Nagel
12:22 Sat Feb 11
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He keeps going on about in his day central midfielders would score more goals. He seems to forget that in those days of 442, full backs rarely ventured past the half way line and wingers kept to the flanks. You simply didn't need defensive midfielders in the middle the way you do now.
Wonder if he says the same about Kante, who gets about the same goals and assists as Rice.
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Alfs
12:30 Sat Feb 11
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He talks more about what a brilliant player he was, than he does about Dec.
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gph
12:42 Sat Feb 11
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No, Vexed, everyone remembers that you insisted Rice was shit, and being played out of position when he first made the first team.
If you've forgotten that, then I'm sure others will be able to remind you that you are one of the few people on WHO who knows less about football than Souness.
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happygilmore
12:50 Sat Feb 11
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I don't read anything Sounness writes.
Rice himself said a few years ago that his preferred position is CH. However, given how he has developed as a midfielder, I'm sure he is happy playing that role now. Towards the end of his career I could see him easily revert to CH .
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gph
1:00 Sat Feb 11
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I'm sure Rice can "do a job" as an emergency CH.
Nevertheless, his best position is not CH, and nothing I've ever said can be construed as saying otherwise.
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zebthecat
1:20 Sat Feb 11
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He was at one point but not now. Would have have made a fantastic libero in that system.
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Vexed
1:40 Sat Feb 11
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gph 12:42 Sat Feb 11
I've never said he was shit, I thought that relying on a kid who had never played in midfield as our starting midfielder was a shit idea. 99 times out of 100 it would be. In fact we had to endure two years of him being pretty average there before he became the player he is now. I also didn't like him having his hand out for more money after about three games in the first team where he'd been mostly crap.
But yeah lets play him a CB right? Deflect Deflect!
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gph
2:18 Sat Feb 11
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I have never said play him as a CB except in an emergency.
You, I suppose, would rather not play centre backs than use someone whose best position is somewhere else.
And yes, you did say that Rice was shit, and that his natural position was centre back.
"I never said he was shit".
Er, "after about three games in the first team where he'd been mostly crap."
You said he was shit, and you're STILL saying he was "mostly crap"
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Jaan Kenbrovin
2:24 Sat Feb 11
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As Nagel said. Rice's role is different, as is football in general since Souness' days.
He'd be asked to not only play another way, but restricted from being the nasty bullying cunt he was.
There is no way Souness would double his tally nowadays, so he reckons.
I think if Rice played further forward, he could have more goals and assists in him though.
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El Scorchio
3:30 Sat Feb 11
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Souness’s stance on Rice is baffling and it’s like he can’t bear to admit he was wrong so he’s just doubling down on it.
I also think there’s a bit of a Liverpool bias creeping in there and he can’t handle people comparing Rice favourably to his boy Henderson.
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Jim C
10:46 Sat Feb 11
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I don't agree with him obviously, but the bloke is paid to give his opinion.
The cynic in me also believes from time to time that columnists deliberately say something a bit out there to get the publicity. More publicity= more readers.
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Vexed
10:51 Sat Feb 11
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gph 2:18 Sat Feb 11
You do whatever semantic gymnastics you need to do to score your points son.
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Takashi Miike
11:00 Sat Feb 11
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it wasn't too long ago he was also slagging off casemiro, the cunt is clearly losing the plot
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gph
11:59 Sat Feb 11
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"You do whatever semantic gymnastics you need to do to score your points son."
Semantic gymnastics?
From the context of the conversation, it's clear that you think this phrase is something impressive, but you don't actually know what it means.
Ironically
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Willtell
12:01 Sat Feb 11
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Souness is doing a Vexed. That’s all.
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ted fenton
12:09 Sat Feb 11
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Not sure how good Rice is between the sticks but apart from that he's so versatile he could play any where.
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El Scorchio
12:15 Sat Feb 11
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Conversation on BT sport right now about it just being a formality he’s leaving. It’s probably true but it’s really disrespectful to us to have this open conversation.
Also akinfenwa is absolutely shit as a talking head. Also the cunt supports Liverpool. Why?
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
12:27 Sat Feb 11
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Some nice reveals from the boy in a new interview here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6i0ll5FhLo
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